Deon, one of my very young friends was analyzing why AJ relationships don’t seem to last long.
Here’s how he began :
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
okie. the problem lies in the fact that EVERYONE has a love tank, and this love tank can be filled in many ways depending on what appeals to the person.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
e,g like.. quality time spent with the person
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
meaningful gifts
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
words of affirmation
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
acts of service for the person.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
yea. and these all fill up the love tank of ervyone. depending on wad appeals to them. for me is acts of service, and words of affirmation/encourgement.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
so you gotta identify yours and your partners.
Mighty Mark – da ditchdog woofs : it’s all about us ! says:
so why ajs cant have a long relationshpip
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
its because they FAIL to fill the love tank of each other.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
they ONLY TAKE, and drain from the other party
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
eventually both of them will end up with an empty love tank, which eventually leaves both of them bored of each other.
Mighty Mark – da ditchdog woofs : it’s all about us ! says:
and why is this rampant in the aj community then
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
because it is a fallen world. aj guys only seems to believe that there is only one source of love, which is their partners.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
but they forget that their families, freiends
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
can also fulfill their love tank.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
the problem is the misunderstanding and belief in the IDEA OF ONE AND ONLY. this idea that love is ONLY real or valid when it is a partnership relationship is very, very limited and downright damaging, then we become tunnel-visioned and grossly restricted in our belief that there is only one person or one love available to us.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
not only do we expect all of our love to come from only one person, but we also expect that they must love us exclusively and forever. i am sure you thought this way too before right?
Hmm.. not quite Deon. Never had it that way. But in a way I do agree, the thing bout expections and all. I wanna love someone, and be loved in return. It sounds so cliche, and simple to achieve. But look closer and one realises, it is not easy at all. Forever is not the word for one. But rather something along the lines of “for as long asI can”. Friends and family are equally important, but I do wanna make my partner feel special. Different, from the rest. I would want that too. If you love someone, would you do something to hurt them? I reckon not. You wanna give them what they deserve. And for the many people out there including me, we wanna feel special too.
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
i still believe that the problem lies in unrealistic expectations. we insist on an impossible promise and self-destruct when the promise is broken. for example, when friends move on we accept it. why? because we did not have unrealistic expectations to begin with.
He makes sense here. We expect different things and he might be right. We expect too much and unrealistically from our partners. But they are different from the rest, are they not? Not a fair comparison, but in a gist he has it right.
Mighty Mark – da ditchdog woofs : it’s all about us ! says:
it does have an impact on expectations and all. in da past i had so many of them and i didnt know how to handle them. today i have a lil lesser. well maybe not lesser but just different, and i know how to handle them
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
thats cool. glad that you broke out from the mentality that love comes only from one person, and in exchange for your love, he must love you exclusively. many ppl are still in this. HAHA.
Is this the real problem? What do you all think? I don’t see much difference between the heterosexuals and homos. The homos however, need to ‘come out’ and there is an exploration period for them before they can settle down. I wont’ say they aren’t suited for relationships, but rather, if they are able to handle changes within themselves. And because they are in a relationship, how the other reacts also matters.
What does he want in a relationship? What does he expect?
[ 'deon# ] – Biyakado? -[ Royal Flirt ]- newurbanmale t-shirts` my motivation` you will never` see me fall apart` says:
my expectations will be that my partner will be able to accept in what i believe. i dont need him to believe in wad i believe in, just accept with an open mind. both of us will have to understand love can be derived from everyone around us. not only just limited in our relationship. that what, our love tank will not be drained by each other. and i will do my best to fill his.
And that is like being able to accept him, though not necessarily agree with him. That’s nice. Love is a gift and a curse. Getting over someone isn’t really bout getting over, but rather letting things go and being able to accept something or someone new, and not feel so victimised and hence wallow into self pity of sorts. Deon feels love will change. I’m not quite sure. I agree it doesn’t stay constant, but when one loves someone, can you stop loving someday? Some argue, if you can begin to love, you also have the ability to stop. In theory yes. I am kinda half hearted with this issue. Deon feels change is an unavoidable fact of life, and it is because of this that an impossible promise arises. eg “I will love you forever” and ultimately it consumes both so much, the thing pyramid collapses.
But one thing I wanna reinforce, his argument on why is it so hard with lovers and all. And it is due to unrealistic expectations. How much do we expect out of friends and all? Again I am not too sure. It seems to me, it is just different. I Would be upset, regardless of friends family or partners whom I’ve lost. But I may react differently cause they are all of different entities. Same, yet different.
In short, I over-rule the argument that aj relationships don’t last because of the above. I would say give the person some time to get used to his sexuality. Someday, like most other human beings, he or she will be ready to settle down. Before that stage, things will likely be unstable. As a person transits from school, NS, work, changes are plentiful. Characters change, opinions differ as time goes along. Change management is important. For someone who is say 30,who has undergone most major changes, he is likely to be more settled down already. But of course the person behind it all makes all the difference. I disagree AJ relationships do not last. Movies and all protray such a bad image. AJs think of sex all the time and all. Tell me, who doesn’t? It is just that it is not described as much within the heterosexual world. Discussions are a lot more open in this arena and it may give the impression all we think of is sex. It is not a fair comparison. I feel there is little difference in terms of sexuality.
Deon’s idea seems to be somewhat that romance is an integrated part of it all. To fully immerse oneself in it, one has to be open to love that is all around. That love is not exclusive, only from partners.
What are your views? I think we can agree expectations have a lot to do with it. How do you manage it? As I said I began with a whole list of them. As I go along, the list gets refined, and I can handle the whole thing better than the last through experience.
Can love change? This is a debatable topic. Would love to hear from all.
Anyhows, I will keep it short for now and pen off. Deon is just past Sec 4 by the way so give him some credit. He offered to buy me a NUM shirt for my birthday and it is such a long way to go. Sweet guy isn’t he? There are loads of people who don’t act their age. I see this in ynot quite a bit. Kenneth asked why I don’t mix around with people my age. I said I don’t indeed, mostly older or younger. The people around me age don’t even behave how a 20 year old should. Yes it is a sacarstic remark. But yes Kenneth, i would love to know more people like you and those who are older indeed. Again it is not better but rather different. I love all my friends, regardless of age.But I don’t have a kor kor indeed. Who wants to adopt me? *L* I think I scare the older guys too much, they won’t be able to handle a didi like me.
End of the day, the question why ajs seem to have short relationships is still open for discussion. I gave my stand, and that it is all about reaching the stage to settle down. Exactly like straight people. People in my arena are hardly 40s, or 50s who have settled down. Those who are of that age, and are looking for partners still, well that is a different story altogether, for a different day.